There are several reasons why your dog may stick their tongue out. I did not see an out-of-control animal, I just saw an animal true to nature. Far as Im concerned that dummy outrider should of known better. If the horses are so bad and so difficult to deal with , well get outa the business. I blame the outrider, hopefully the jockey learned something from this too! Actually they for the most part are immature babys. Tying a horses tongue for racing has been practiced for generations. I was unsure. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. They will bite mares like that if allowed. It was necessary to Protect the rider and pony. I know there were alot of horsemen coming unglued watching that abusethis is not the norm so dont jump on horse racing jump on the pony rider! If he is going well and doing what you want, the tongue wont really matter unless you want to show in the hunter or dressage ring; in the jumpers, for example, he wont be penalized for it. The outrider could have used much better judgement. Below is a YouTube video showing how to tie a horses tongue. Abuse is never acceptable! He was trying to grab the horse so he could interview Sonny on the way back to the winners circle and to hand him off to that hag Donna Brothers. Greg did EVERYTHING he could to get Rich Strike to stophe had to resort to physically correcting a horse, which is something ALL horsepeople might have to do. The horse Blasi was riding appeared distressed as well and reared up in an apparent attempt to escape. With him, I used a ball-bearing bit and a pulley cavesson. The horse was just showing dominance by biting. Free bets exclude virtuals. That was unnecessary to beat the horse. So, how do you feel about the horses that were INJURED and vanned off? Its not all about bullying the horse to do what you want.any animal for that matter. This ABUSE of this racehorse by the outrider was bad but racing horses to the point of broken bones, Exercise Induced Pulmonary Hemorrhage, and a myriad of other life-threatening conditions that cause horrendous pain and agonizing suffering to the horses that usually necessitate euthanasia and/or cause immediate death is what is even worse. A typical thoroughbred race horse weighs in at over 1,000 lbs., and this horse was savaging not only the Outrider, but his horse as well. He's described as an Oklahoma horseman with ranch roots and he's one of just a handful of professional outriders at the track. You are spot on, Kelly! So, it would just seem that Rich Strike is just an aggressive horse. ..its called savage..he tried to savage him..he was savaging him..u knowlike Mike Tyson did to Holyfield.SAVAGE.happens more then u know, but gives u reason to post here. During exertion, the palate loosens and obstructs the horses airway. Having experience with horses and knowing horses, its possible to tell when theyre going to be aggressive or not. I can still walk into a barn and calm my energy to bring theirs down. Lazy, base and lacking seriously in understanding basic horse psychology, their tactics center on domination. Rich Strike collected a purse payout of $1.86 million for the victory. The jockey could have easily pulled Strikes head to the right to redirect the horses attention. He is 17 years old and I have owned him for over 10 years, and this has always been an issue. This article first appeared in the November, 1999 issue of Practical Horseman magazine. All she did was yank on the front of him from rearing snd he quit. This wasnt abuse in anyway. A horse who won and I wonder if that outsider lost a bunch of money. Many of us have spent most of our lives being around horses. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Unlike some of the accusations made by some of the commenters, most of us who comment here do know horses and horse behavior. june not all juvenile babies have the cool,calm mind and laid back temperament of Orb, American P., and such. Those who claim abuse have no idea what they are talking about, No you cant just get him go. She cares and understands horses and treats them properly, without drugs and without keeping them in a box 23 hours a day. Sure its fine for the horse to dominate as in winning but dont bite the rude so and so that grabbed control of RICH STRIKE away from the jockey, Sonny Leon. Although, I think Sonny Leon is a very skillful, talented, and genius jockey. Greg is being eaten by Rich StrikeIgnorant people are blaming him and calling for his firing. Do not give me your crocodile tears. Absolutely ruined the moment of his winning! This needs to stop., Nobody knew how badly these horses were treated until the last three or four years and now its been exposed and now it needs to stop. The outrider should be disciplined. PETA Spills the Dirt, Help Adoptable Cat Kumar Find the Right Castle to Call His Own, Incompetent Staff Increase Animal Body Count at Brigham and Womens Hospital Laboratories. End horse racing and stop breeding them. My granddaughter did and she wanted to know why. Webtongue ( tng) [TA] 1. Horses have a soft palate inside the upper portion of their mouth. Other causes include heatstroke, shallow breaths, and neurological problems. I did see him get so mad that he was yanking on his own horse too. Ginny Clark, you are suggesting that this bloodsport requires abusive action towards the horses. Biting is one thing but taking chunks out of the outriders horse is so ridiculously exaggerated. And if your that afraid dont ride him. Tongue ties keep airways open for horses with soft palates. On the track, many horses have their tongues tied down to Theyve got no bloody idea, they really havent. One item is a strap tied to a horses tongue and secured under its lower jaw. I hope you dont have a horse. In non-racing equine sports, tongue-tying is banned by theFederation Equestre Internationale. Or better yet, get a human to escort if the horse is getting excited around another horse. Any links on this page that lead to products on Amazon are affiliate links and I earn a commission if you make a purchase. He just hung on. I call BS on your comment! Yes, I do have a horse. His tail was stuck in the gate closure. Horse racing is soooo over. It takes some degree of knowledge and skill to get a horse to hold still that doesnt want to hold still AND I know you will believe me that you dont go smacking the horse upside the head or anywhere when you want them to be calm and relaxed and not resisting. Thats some horse and I would like to buy him then. As soon as he grabbed a hold of the poor horses face and mouth it escalated the situation. (1,461) $19.00 FREE shipping. POST-RACE footage of shock Kentucky Derby winner Rich Strike biting a man and rival horse has been defended by the 80-1 hero's trainer. There seems to be no consensus on the causes for a horse to flip its palate. When has anyone ever seen a horse and rider tip over? Ive read so many racing articles about owners, trainers, jockeys, grooms and how many have had zero horse experience before finding a job WITH them at the track. What was going on there? RICH STRIKE is not trying to bite anyone. Jockey if he is equine educated should have told the outriders to leave it to him and any decent rider would let his horse go through the throes of frustration and distress giving him time to settle down and get it out of his system. So I bet he did not get any vet care while they hauled that loutish lard butt off to the hopsital cause the only thing RS could get a hold of was his chubby leg. T&Cs apply. Next time youre at the horse track pay attention to the horses mouths and look for a strap secured under their chin, thats the tongue tie. Charlotte, the standard procedure is to start riding colts and fillies at 18 months of age and then they keep riding them. Now, he and Leon will look toward the second leg of the triple crown, the Preakness Stakes, as they look to continue their Cinderella run. This face has turtles as eyes. Far as that goes if your an outrider dont you know how to deal with a frustrated colt who beaten down the track but otherwise locked in a stall all day. That said, this industry SETS HORSES UP for injury, dangerous situations, death both the racehorses and the ponies. Then the outrider grabs Rich Strike, and then the horse has to make a decision. Likewise, a mare is acting 'mareish' if she gets nervous, spooked and hard to handle. Horse racing is a dead end for those animals. I know this is a sign that he isnt holding the bit right. Its not as if the outrider letting the horse go would have caused an incident. She was one of the very few. Theres such a thing as manners and horses should have them as well as people! What would you do Barb??? 2 x 10 bet tokens. Where is your concern for the horses killed on tracks , in the gates or dying alone in their stalls and tossed out like trash. Why were they fighting? "So when he saw that pony coming his way, he thought he had another horse to beat and he was trying to run by it. T&Cs apply. Its a job that requires an employee to be okay with using sadistic and brutal methods to force animals to comply. I would! I often wonder how my 52 sister can manage horses like this without anger or abuse oh! In non-racing horses, the behavior can be addressed with different training methods and adjustments to the bits. Protecting himself and his horse. Apparently, angry outbursts run in the Blasi family: PETAs 2013 investigation into notorious abuser Steve Asmussen revealed Scotts frequent fits, and last year, he was fined and suspended for a physical altercation.. Horse-racing..showcasing mankind at his finest! What they know is warehousing racehorses in shedrows for 23 hours/day then sending them to the track for training and racing. Him jerking and punching on the horse made it worse- all for the almighty post race interview and video. William, youre correct in your assessment of this ugly situation!!! Diana, if you take a closer look at this situation, you should be able to see that it was the outrider, Blasi, who went after the winning horse, RICH STRIKE. And everything is blamed on hm. "The horse is not a mean horse. Tongue ties are used to keep a horses tongue from getting over the bit. Is that right? Update (May 17, 2022): The shocking moment when an outrider punched this years Kentucky Derby winner, Rich Strike, in the face immediately after the race was rightfully met with widespread backlash from many viewersand as PETA has said, the incident could have been avoided. Dam disgusting poor horse l hope someone made the sod get punnished cruel sod, just so long as the horse makes money for them sack him he is a brute and should never be allowed to look after any animal. I am not even sure why they are involved with horses when they dont seem to even like them and certainly they dont respect them. I have been going racing for fifty years all over the world and I have never seen an outrider, jockey, hotwalker, trainer or assistant trainer abuse a horse in full public view the way this lout did. I would like to see it done away with. [Late 1800s] See also: hang, tongue The American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms by Christine Ammer. Actually, it seems you think it gives YOU reason to comment here, Ken. its all bs. WebRich Strike's owner in complete shock after winning Kentucky Derby ESPN 8.91M subscribers Subscribe 4.6K Share 466K views 9 months ago #KentuckyDerby Research shows that tying a racehorses tongue decreases the instances of DDSP and allows horses to breathe better while running. I know what you mean about being able to calm horses down by your attitude and demeanor. Blasi, the outrider (or as you say, outsider) chose to interfere with the jockeys control of RICH STRIKE. Dont want to get bit well then back off and let the jock handle it. I suspect you would like to be treated better then those horses are but perhaps a tongue tie on you might persuade you other wise. This horse just won the KD. Give the horse a chance to cool his jets before you rush into his space. That poor horse was amped up coming out of his skin with a 100,000 drunk idiots screaming at him. LOUISVILLE, Ky. The 80-to-1 upset by Rich Strike in Saturdays Kentucky Derby is undoubtedly one of the biggest shocks horse racing has seen in a long As someone who has been around horses all my life ( and been bitten) that man handled himself as professionally as possible given the situation. Just my opinion! Was it pretty no..It was a dangerous situation. Meet Rich Strike's up-and-coming jockey. It makes me sick to see people doing deceitful garbage like that to and with horses. According to the American Quarter Horse Association, he's worked at Churchill Downs for more than 20 years. Epiglottic Entrapment is similiar to DDSP in Horses, Tying a horses tongue can cause health problems, School of Veterinary Studies at The University of Edinburgh, Why Do Racehorses Have to Pee so Bad? That man saved my horse from injury because had he got up in the air and lost my rider he could have gotten loose, I'm sorry for the injuries he sustained," said Eric Reed, Rich Strike's trainer. (It commonly occurs on trucks when many racehorses suffer the terrible journey to Mexico/Canada to be slaughtered). PETA Senior Vice President Kathy Guillermo released a statement, in part saying, "Whipping horses in a race is abuse and should be eliminated, but punishing a horse who was in a frenzy as the crowd roared is inexcusably cruel. Researchers have proven that racehorse does not improve when their tongue is tied if the horse does not have an airway obstruction issue. This horse has been drugged and more than likely has ulcers that cause more aggressive behavior. Its got to be the criminal acts you could be involved In or the fact you can make money by letting the horses do all the work. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. I could go on Paula Taube, Thoroughbred breeder and owner, Theres so many things I know, 1st hand, not rumors, not 3rd party. Kentucky Derby 2022 winner Rich Strike appeared to have plenty left in the tank after his stunning upset victory in the 148th Run for the Roses on Saturday. She understood horse behavior. Another possible stroke-provoked symptom, according to the AHA, is dysphagia, which makes swallowing extremely difficult. There is a safety protocol. Theyre clueless about everything that enriches an equines life and clueless about what environment will keep them as safe as possible. If youve been to the race track, Im sure youve noticed horses crossing the finish line with their tongues hanging. Incidently with cups on a bridle I doubt RS would have been able to see the whip coming down on his backside. But seriously its your job to handle that horse so if you all insist on racing them try to be professional about it. Its just more fun to yank and slap the poor creature! Clearly, the exhausting Triple Crown schedule needs to be modernized by extending the time between each of the three races to one month in order to allow horses ample opportunity to rest and recover, as PETA has long advocated for. You are obviously not horse savvy to make a ignorant statement like that. A. Webinfo@diarrah.com; 2390 NW 2nd Ave, Mali; nikah status for whatsapp Facebook-square pippa ehrlich husband Twitter riddell mini helmets custom Linkedin adelaide lightning players 2021 22 Instagram In the real world of horse care, we call that ABUSE. Especially horses, Ive been around them most of my life but I am always learning more and enjoy sharing with others. Susanne, taking chunks? Hello Barb it is a HORSE. It was necessary to Abused because he was not supposed to win much much less have a chance at the next two races. The outrider used extremely poor judgement!!! I feel like many of the people who are leaving comments here dont handle horses on a regular basis. Webwhy does rich strike tongue hang outwhy does rich strike tongue hang out 2007 jeep wrangler seat adjustment lever Back to Blog. The greatest story of this special horse. Couldnt get them out of there fast enough. Addressing the shocking post-race incident, Reed said: "I want to clear that up. He is NOT A MATURE HORSE and should NOT be expected to perform as though he were a mature horse which means he should not be exploited for racing and wagering!!!! A mobile mass of muscular tissue covered with mucous membrane, occupying the cavity of the mouth and forming part of its floor, constituting also by its posterior portion the anterior wall of the pharynx. Handling horses is like second to breathing for a lot of us. Them hateful savage horses are paying you wing nuts bills. He did the shoeing and I did the holding of the horses in many cases. This was uncalled for. An animal that doesnt understand respect and it is obvious that the people around him dont understand or respect him. Sometimes a horse flexes and constricts its throat muscles, causing the base of the tongue to push the soft palate back and into the nasopharynx. Neither are modern-day trainers. I pray for the safety of rich strike!!! I know horses and have handled stallions. The woman trainer was probably 5 tall and this horse was over 2000 lbs. If a 1100 pound horse does not respect being led and gets in the outriders space he needs to be disciplined. So just let the jockey ride him in!!!! I bet ya the outriders horse didnt see a vet for his injuries. I cant watch this! The researchers observed horses reactions to having their tongues tied and compared the responses to horses; they manipulated their tongues but didnt tie them down. Rich Strike wasnt in the Derby field until Friday when Ethereal Road was scratched. The best thing the outrider could have done was to let the horse, RICH STRIKE, go!!!! He trained on this filly for 3 weeks with that bow [photo was included that showed a chestnuts front limbs with a left front bowed tendon]. These people just exploit horses knowing they can make a half-decent living at it. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (LEX 18) A Churchill Downs outrider is facing some criticism for what happened after Rich Strike crossed the finish line at the 148th Kentucky Derby. Thats coming directly from someone whose horses he abused, mine. Paula Taube, Thoroughbred breeder and owner, 108 rulings. The abrupt transitionfrom being forced to run as fast as he could to facing a noisy crowdwas likely overwhelming for the 3-year-old Thoroughbred. Kind of hard to let go when horse biting him. Also the jockeys adrenaline may have taken over or may be light headed. But folks, this is the Kentucky Derby and we cannot have the winning horse behaving badly as this outrider saw it. Horses that can not get their palate back into place by swallowing usually have to undergo surgery to repair the condition. I have bought, sold, and broke racehorse yearlings. No horse should be drugged and abused! Was he taking his anger out on Rich Strike because the horse had defeated competing racehorse Epicenter? Sometime around 2:30 a.m. on Sunday morning, about seven hours after his horse had pulled off the greatest Kentucky Derby upset in a century, Eric The horse won the race. So people who are okay with INHUMANE treatment of horses accuse us that we dont know anything, because were not okay with abusing horses. Rich Strike, who covered the mile and a quarter in 2 minutes 2.61 seconds, rewarded his believers with a whopping $163.60 on a $2 bet to win. Then you will get hurt. The whole scene was horrible for this horse. Emmi, you are so full of crap! The humans who find employment in racing and those who support it are solely to blame for this sick and unnecessary occurrence. If hes an angel otherwise, the tongue may be something you just have to live with-and you can, as long as he isnt getting his tongue over the bit and bolting. The medical term for this condition is the dorsal displacement of the soft palate (DDSP). Another apologist who OWNS racehorses and another owner who hasnt a clue about what enriches an equines life because if she did and if she cared she wouldnt risk their lives by racing them. T&Cs apply. The researcher found that upper respiratory stability was enhanced in horses with their tongues tied, resulting in better breathing. That then can put his life in danger. In some instances, a trainer will tie their racehorses tongues out to the side of its mouth before their race. To move the bit, a horse will throw its head back, open and close its mouth, and pull its tongue in and out of its mouth. Blasi's job was to get Rich Strike to calm down so winning jockey Sonny Leon could do TV interviews while still in the saddle. He could have let the jockey handle his own horse!!! Most of the people defending the ABUSE have this preconceived notion that we dont know anything about horses or we would not be criticizing the bad behavior of the outrider, namely Greg Blasi. WebStrength of the tongue muscles is an indicator of general muscle strength. How bizarre that racing & its supporters are upset about a non-life threatening bite on the neck (in defense of the outrider punching Rich Strike in the face) but will ignore the literal thousands of racehorses who suffer broken limbs training/racing and are euthanized. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. In this case of an INTACT male horse running in the Kentucky Derby, RICH STRIKE is THREE YEARS OLD. A stallion locked in a box for 23 hours a day or more! Horse racing is deliberate ANIMAL CRUELTY to the horses and where are you when multiple horses are reported injured and killed by racing???? The horse wouldn't cooperate and remained out of The important thing: Keep experimenting until you find what works for your horse. Listen you uncaring greedy bas_tard Ive been around a horse trainer who trained and broke many types of horses much larger. This is separate from what IVE SEEN him do. Paula Taube, Thoroughbred breeder and owner. The horse entered the Kentucky Derby field Friday after Ethereal Road scratched, won the 2022 Kentucky He just won the biggest race of his young life and got treated like a POS!!! Then we can stop breeding more horses to A STALLION is an intact male horse OVER THE AGE OF FOUR YEARS. The rider should know what to do. Thirteen horses survived the fire which was reported to have been caused by lightning. No he sat there like a dumb bumpkin. Video from moments after the race shows Derby winner Rich Strike biting outrider Greg Blasi and his pony multiple times. People & horses might have DIED if Leon simply RODE the colt just like the other 19 jockeys were riding their mounts, Emmi? You go yanking on your own horse as well as RS and what do you think was gonna happen. Stay up to date on the latest vegan trends and get breaking animal rights news delivered straight to your inbox! Pure and utter bullshit. But on the final stretch, 80-1 longshot Rich Strike outran favorites Zandon and Epicenter by less than a length to earn one of the most improbable Kentucky Derby wins in history. 18+ Begambleaware.org, Sky Bet: New customers only. The movement of the soft palate reduces airflow and leads to DDSP. Yes, I have been bitten. - Horse Text UGLY to 73822 to tell UGGs to choose vegan materials and stop supporting the mutilation and violent killing of sheep! Id like to see you sit up on that pony horse and react any different! The ties do not have any adverse effect on breathing, nor do horses seem to mind the tongue restraint. And tell me again how savage that horse is when another jock Was riding next to him for a bit to congratulate him. Buddy was wayyyy too aggressive!!! Almost all of us grew up eating meat, wearing leather, and going to circuses and zoos. Oh yes, teach the horse RESPECT! Reed has defended Blasi's forthright actions after they were met with some criticism on social media. It serves no purpose. Yes its so much greed here, its sickening. They dont even know why they give them the drugs they do they just know theyve been educated to give them. Bits are used to control a horses movements through pressure to various parts of a horses mouth, including its tongue. slowing RS to a canter then jog then walk (without the outrider yanking on RSs mouth and punching him in the face) is more dangerous than what the two just did? #EndHorseracingNOW. He could have handled this situation differently and with better judgement. Other indicators noted in the horses with tongues tied included lip-licking on the removal of the tie, and increased saliva, indicating a physiological stress response. To those who say he should have just let him go: really? Still, if I was that official on the lead pony, I wouldve let the reins go and see if someone else could bring him in. You dumbass, he wasnt abused, he was being corrected from attacking the pony and the outrider , who did an outstanding job. Text STOP to end, HELP for more info. Im quite sure most of their horses go to slaughter. When I was a child growing up, my dad shod horses. If you do you shouldnt. Yet Chubs refused to BACK THE F OFF because it was his (Chubs) big moment to shine on Derby Death Day. Play Safe. Rich Strike, an 80-1 long shot who only entered the field Friday as a last-minute replacement for Ethereal Road, paid off big$163.60, $74.20 and $29.40 as the Fact, Fiction & Causes, Why Are Race Horses Legs Wrapped? Do You Know Why? The bites would then not have hurt. Hes a colt its like having a large unfixed dog they get sexually aggressive when excited. If the horses are that big a danger I would expect to see more dead humans then all the horses killed instead. . They dont turn them out to pasture to let them grow some more. It is a high stress environment and the best thing to do would have been to let him settle. Q. However, horses can move their tongues around and even retract them pretty far, but again they cant swallow them. While I gave up going there when I saw them ride a horse outa site after its broke. Sticking the tongue out is an evasion that comes from nerves, so most horses with this problem have other problems, too. Begambleaware.org. Bits put pressure on a horses tongue and can be uncomfortable. For other inquiries, Contact Us. There is a common sense reason that the outrider could have waited a little longer to grab a hold of RICH STRIKE. 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